Forum - Tips & Tricks - facial animation workaround - Messages http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Forum - Tips & Tricks - facial animation workaround - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:00:02 GMT Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:00:02 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from ziggy72 ]]> Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:00:02 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from mysto
I'll have to start sharing my little tips and tricks with everyone. Good job Dreeko for pointing this tip out!

Toast]]> Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:36:19 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from bigwally Dreeko wrote:
Do you want your character to have a blank expression instead of grinning like a maniac?

Well, I have been playing around with muvizu (shock!) and discovered that if you wish to create a blank expression on a character when they are in the seated position use the "guitar idle" animation and if your character is standing then use "drums idle" and your character will suddenly lose all emotion until you decide otherwise by selecting a different animation.

Hurrah!

Cheers
D


I've been doing this for a while now with using the keyboardist setting. Boy, I feel like a jerk for not saying anything. Good work, Dreeko. The guitar position works great!]]> Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:22:12 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko ukBerty wrote:
Dreeko - this is a top tip and something I will be using immediately.

Cheers



You are the very chap i had in mind when i discovered it!

Glad to help!]]> Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:05:09 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from ukBerty
Cheers]]> Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:45:03 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko
Well, I have been playing around with muvizu (shock!) and discovered that if you wish to create a blank expression on a character when they are in the seated position use the "guitar idle" animation and if your character is standing then use "drums idle" and your character will suddenly lose all emotion until you decide otherwise by selecting a different animation.

Hurrah!

Cheers
D]]> Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:09:38 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Emily
Plus a little bit of fiddling in Premiere ]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:24:04 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from freakmoomin
amazing ]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:15:10 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Emily
]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:12:08 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko Emily wrote:
It's a nice little cheat for our impatient users!

I noticed another little trick that I may share here...

Speaking as one of muvizus foremost impatient users I have to say....
TELL US ALL EMILY!!!!! ]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:43:06 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko barrys wrote:
That's a nice idea, Dreeko. You'll be pleased to hear that the facial animation system is something on our to-do list. Honestly, I'm looking at the list right now: it's a massive cardboard sheet covered in wee cards arranged next to the year's release dates.

The pub-chat phase of the design work's already started. We've not got to the stage of plans and documents yet and, to be honest, that's not going to happen for a bit, but I thought you'd like to know.

Thanks for stirring the debate. I like it.

Barry


Glad you like the idea Barry
I've been thinking for a while about what the facial animation system might be like, considering the desire to keep muvizu as user friendly as possible but still be as intuitive as we (the more demanding users) would desire it to be.
I'm sure whatever form it takes will move muvizu yet again to another level

I remember the ever expanding wall of to-do post it notes from my visits to muvizu and can I apologise in advance for all the suggestions still to come which may take the peak of the mountain even higher!

Thanks again to all who have the crazy task of trying to convert the suggestions of me and others into some kind of coherent reality

Cheers
D]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:34:31 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Emily
I noticed another little trick that I may share here...]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:28:44 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from barrys
The pub-chat phase of the design work's already started. We've not got to the stage of plans and documents yet and, to be honest, that's not going to happen for a bit, but I thought you'd like to know.

Thanks for stirring the debate. I like it.

Barry]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:07:03 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko Managed to do a bit of movement to the brows this time and they move independently of each other
the effect could be better if i had more time to spend on it today but i think it shows potential.....thoughts?

(1 backdrop per brow)



cheers

D
edited by Dreeko on 26/01/2011]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:00:47 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from artpen
I think also a brow control slider (up-down) gizmo would give fantastic results.
Think Wallace&Grommit!, where Grommit uses the brow only, very good emotion
And very funny.

I think a brow slider control gizmo would work like dream for our ardman style
Characters.
Bring it on Muvizu, you know it makes sense]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:14:30 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from mysto Dreeko wrote:
It's a handy technique for different facial expressions until there is an update to muvizu which includes a facial animation system

If the muvizu eyebrows had the ability to be animated in a similar manner to the image switching I've shown as well as having a movement animation option for raising and lowering individual brows and also as a pair. Add to that a better control system for the eyelids - fully open/closed, rapid to zero blinking, and pupils that go all the way from one side of the eyeball to the other then the happy/sad/angry etc states would take care of the mouth side of the expression and it would be all there as far as I can see for an animation system for the face

Thoughts?

D
edited by Dreeko on 25/01/2011


That pretty much sums it up. It's on my "want" list.]]> Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:02:23 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko
If the muvizu eyebrows had the ability to be animated in a similar manner to the image switching I've shown as well as having a movement animation option for raising and lowering individual brows and also as a pair. Add to that a better control system for the eyelids - fully open/closed, rapid to zero blinking, and pupils that go all the way from one side of the eyeball to the other then the happy/sad/angry etc states would take care of the mouth side of the expression and it would be all there as far as I can see for an animation system for the face

Thoughts?

D
edited by Dreeko on 25/01/2011]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:39:32 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from ziggy72 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:36:40 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from jonbez ]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:36:32 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from mysto Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:43:00 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko Neil wrote:
So we don't need to bother doing facial animation now? Cool, we can get on with that octopus instead.


No chance!
Eyebrows down for that one!]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:56:10 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from KerryK

edited by KerryK on 25/01/2011]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:19:45 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from claireq Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:09:42 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Neil ]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:03:50 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from freakmoomin
fingers crossed we get it soon!]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:07:16 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from claireq ]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:50:57 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Emily Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:47:36 GMT http://www.muvizu.com/Forum/topic860-facial-animation-workaround.aspx Message from Dreeko
import different eyebrow shapes (png with transparencies) onto a backdrop, shrink it down and put it on a characters forehead (a character that has eyebrows removed obviously!) and animate the backdrop image properties and voila facial animation

although the character has to be static (in a pose) for obvious reasons!



cheers

D]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:13:38 GMT